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S10E8 - He Won Mexico For A Joke & Lost It To Bad Seafood; Comedy, Chaos, Connection & Lessons Beyond the Algorithm!!

TSWP Season 10 Episode 8

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What if reading a room could change how you brand, publish, and grow online? We sit down with comedian turned podcaster and tech founder Jeff Dwoskin to unpack the craft behind connection: the split-second choices that make strangers lean in, the nerves that never fully leave, and the moments on stage that teach you more than any marketing playbook ever could.

Jeff takes us from a bold tag that won a comedy contest to the rebrand that finally fit his show. The journey from The Jeff Dwoskin Show to Live From Detroit to Classic Conversations came down to clarity: names and artwork should explain, not confuse. We dig into why shortening intros, cutting filler segments, and ditching distracting music boosted listener focus and reclaimed precious prep time. The result is a format you can sustain, not just survive.

We also explore the roots of Stampede Social, born from years running trending Twitter games and rebuilt for Instagram and Facebook. Jeff explains how DM automation, trackable links, and top-fan insights turn casual comments into measurable actions. No more shouting URLs; invite listeners to DM a keyword and watch the data tell the story. Along the way, we talk boundaries with Facebook and Threads, and how to protect your headspace while still showing up for your audience.

The heartbeat of this conversation is a creator’s mindset: stop contorting your voice to every algorithm tweak. Earn the follow through craft, not clickbait. Keep your channel messy if that’s your truth. Book guests through genuine relationships. And remember Rob Lowe’s line that Jeff shares: don’t judge your insides by other people’s outsides. If you’re ready to refine your show, organise your socials, and create with less noise and more intent, you’ll find practical steps and a lot of laughs here.

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Cold Open And Laughing Start

SPEAKER_02

Can you hear me?

SPEAKER_05

I can't hear you. Did you just say can you hear me?

SPEAKER_02

You can hear me.

SPEAKER_04

I can hear it.

SPEAKER_02

Yes, welcome to Talk to Whip.

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Oh, do we start? Are we done? Are we on? Okay, I'm sorry. I didn't even realize. I thought you were gonna.

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Okay.

SPEAKER_05

Hey, it's good to be here. What's up, everybody? So good to be here.

SPEAKER_02

No wonder you're the comedian, because literally you haven't even said much and I'm already laughing.

SPEAKER_06

So it's uh anyway, hey well, it's hard not to be in a good mood with you. So that's uh, you know, great to be here. Excited.

SPEAKER_02

Um I'm great to have you on this stage, especially for my final season. This season is very special to me. So um I wanted to make sure I have people who are special to me on this episode. So don't get a big head, but you are special to me, so that's right.

SPEAKER_05

Suck it, everyone else.

SPEAKER_02

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_05

Um oh hi.

SPEAKER_06

Oh, you weren't in the final season? Hmm. Okay. I guess that's nice also.

SPEAKER_02

Is it? Is it though? Is it though?

SPEAKER_06

Sorry, I would I would I would have dressed up more. I would have worn it high or something.

SPEAKER_02

I didn't realize how we I already see this episode is gonna be too much laughing.

SPEAKER_06

So hopefully we can we can get through it with uh we're gonna bring a lot of value for the next 17 hours. We promise you will walk away with tips and tricks on how to do things that involve things that need tips and tricks. That you've come to the right place if you need things to make you better.

Jeff’s Path Into Stand-Up

SPEAKER_02

This is a Jeff takeover. Like, you know, he's not the horse, literally like taking over. So, Jeff, how did you get into comedy?

SPEAKER_06

That's a great question. I, you know, I I think I was funny, but I didn't know how to channel it right. And and so, and I didn't know how people did it, you know. And one day, oh, you know what it was? I know exactly what it was. So one of my earlier companies was uh a web development company. We made websites for people, one of the very first in the country. And so um one of the websites that we did was Mark Ridley's Comedy Castle, which is a local comedy club to me in Michigan. And I remembered one of the things on there was comedy classes. You could learn how to write comedy for the stage and perform on stage. So kind of flash forward a little bit. I'm working at Quest Communications uh in their Southfield office. And the way that I survived working in this office was I was the funny guy because my I was kind of safe because my actual team was in Chicago, but I was in Michigan with other people. So these other people would be complaining about their boss. So I found that I had this ability to make fun of things, and people didn't get mad at me necessarily about it. I don't know. Maybe it's my face, but um, and so I would at the um all staff meetings, I would kind of joke around and I could get away with things that other people wouldn't because these people wouldn't fire me. And so they're like, Oh, you're so funny, you know, and so you should take uh comedy class. So I'm like, oh, you know what? I know where one is, and so I did, and then uh that was like 20 years ago, and you stuck with it, it was more than that, it was because it was probably more like 23 years ago, so yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And you stuck with it.

SPEAKER_06

I don't do it as much anymore, but yeah, I but I did stick with it for decades.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah, I'm curious. Uh I want to know where your comedy journey took you. We have seen the the pictures on the wall at the back, so I feel like there's uh there's a a journey there in between that um most people don't know about. Maybe so yeah, yeah.

The Craft: Context, Connection, Stage Nerves

SPEAKER_06

So I I found that doing stand-up comedy, and I would say if anyone wants, you know, take a stand-up comedy class or improv uh would work, I think similarly. Um it's a great skill to have, regardless of I like kind of look at life. I always thought that I look at life like in a 360-degree way. Like I see things at different angles. So in this political climate, it's a little difficult for me because I'm not black as black and white as some people are. And so, you know, I mean, anyway, but that uh that aside, it's like it's what stand-up comedy basically is in a in a nutshell is and you you did it, so you know, is you get on stage and you have to connect with an audience immediately that doesn't know you. Let me backtrack one second. All the people that think they're hilarious and have all these laughs with their friends, it's because you have sometimes 10, 20 or more years of background with the people that you're with, and you can just say something, or a guy could be wearing a hat a funny way, and it reminds you of something that happened 10 years ago, and someone points it out and you laugh for five minutes about it, right? And so you have all this context, is my point when you're with friends. And so when you get on stage in front of strangers, um, you don't have any of that context. They don't know you. You have the idea of shared experiences, but you don't have necessarily very specific things that you can trigger off each other. So stand-up comedy, uh, the art of it is really creating that bond almost immediately so that the audience reacts with you and feels like they're in sync with you and what you're talking about, and you have that that good time together. So to me, like when I say like take an improv class or you know, take a stand-up comedy class, it's sort of learning how to do that. There's a kind of a side benefit to it where you can read the room, you can feel the room. Like when you're on stage, if they're with you, you can feel it. If they're not with you, you can feel the void, and you can make adjustments. But it's it's a it's an interesting superpower that you get when you're so attuned and you get to be on stage uh as many times as you get to when you're doing stand-up comedy. But yeah, that was a long answer. But yeah.

SPEAKER_02

It's the most scariest shit I've ever done. Right. I give it up for people who get up on stage to make people laugh. Like, um, yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_06

It's super scary. It's look at every time I would get on stage, even you know, when I did it at Podfest uh a couple years ago, and I'd done it for 20 years before, yeah, prior, you know, a thousand times. You know, it's like I always like I'm like this could be the time, you know. Am I gonna screw up? Am I gonna panic? Am I gonna you know, it's like are they gonna dig what I'm doing? Are they gonna immediately hate me? Like I that doesn't go away. I don't believe it goes away. I don't anyone who says it does, I don't I don't believe them. And uh, you know, so it's it's something that you're doing, but when it's working, and you know, people laughed when you were up there, it there's nothing I can't imagine a drug better than that feeling. And so that's why that's why you then go back and do it again and do it again.

SPEAKER_02

I don't know about going back and doing it again and again, but uh, it was a good thing. But again, all in fairness for me personally, I think maybe because it was potfest and people knew, because like even other people were coming to see me, they were like, we're gonna laugh regardless, but then we're gonna tell you to never do this. So even when people were laughing, I don't know if they were laughing. Any with me, I was just happy they were laughing. It's so different compared to because I've spoken on stages, right? And I do get nervous, right? But when I get on stage to speak, those people really don't know what you're talking about, right? Like you can't, you can screw up and they won't really know, like you, because they don't have to laugh or anything, they just need to nod or something. But when you're not getting people to laugh, right, that's a whole other nerve-wracking, scary shit. Because if you're out there talking some shit you think is funny and people should be laughing, but nobody's laughing, like that's the fear I have. Like, what if nobody laughs, right? And I was lucky I did it at Portfest, right? And that's why in my head, every time I think about let me go to my local uh bars and do this, uh, because they have these stand-up nights and whatever, and try to do it where they're all strangers, nobody knows me. But every time I think about that, I get sick, and I'm like, never mind, next week, next week, and it's been next week ever since.

SPEAKER_06

Just like anything, it's the hardest part is just doing it. So I feel you. I I thought about it for years before I actually did it. And the process that I did, which you were a little braver, you just wrote stuff and went on stage. I I took a class. They had a writing class, and so I probably did a class for uh my memory thinks it was two months, you know, of Saturdays before doing seven minutes on stage for the first time. So it was a whole process.

SPEAKER_02

Then mine was three minutes, and I still felt like I can't imagine trying to make people out for and I've taken a class before. Um, three, four seasons ago, I had a guy who's a comedian and in a mental health place, right? So um I did take he offered me a class with him one time. I did take it because again, I keep hearing from people how funny I am, and people just assume just because you're funny, you should be a comedian. So I was just tired of hearing people tell me that.

SPEAKER_06

So I wanted to just like let me just do it so I can check it off my if people are laughing at with you the whole time, then you're funny. You know, people only give you so much leeway, you know. Oh, it's Paula, we love Paula. Yeah, you know, I mean, the second it becomes uncomfortable, everyone's uncomfortable. You know, so if if they're laughing the whole time, then you're definitely we're funny.

SPEAKER_02

Well, thank you. And thank you also because you you helped me. You I got on a call with you, you got me right. Uh I sent my shit to you. So thank you for being in my corner while I was figuring this shit out.

SPEAKER_06

Well, you know, I I did I didn't even know at the time it was the path to the final season. Hey.

SPEAKER_02

I know, all right. Look at that. Maybe it's just a comedy podcast. Since y'all like tell me I'm so funny, come here and laugh with me, and we just laugh. But you are also an award winning, so you won the Dick. Oh, you did your homework comedy showcase. I kind of did. I know my shit, okay? I can't prepare. People who don't know what that is, can you tell us?

Contest Night, A Bold Tag, And A Win

SPEAKER_06

So, way back in the day, I entered a contest. Dick Purton, by the way, it was whoever in your town is the person that's uh mourning radio that's been there for 40 years and it's just the mainstay. Dick Burton since retired in Michigan, but that's who Dick Burton was. Like any comedian or anybody came to town, they went on the Dick Burton show. And so Dick Purton had a contest and uh a comedy contest, and you could submit to be chosen to be part of this contest. And it was part of a charity event that they were doing. Uh, Dick Burton's wife had um a form of cancer and they were raising money. So I performed like with uh Dick Purton, uh I'm sorry, uh Tim Allen, you know, from you know, you know, everyone knows Tim Allen. And uh um Michael Costa was there that night. He's big on the Tonight Show. He's from Michigan as well. So he was a buddy of mine before we became famous. Um, and then Kathleen Madigan was there. She's a huge comedian, and a couple other uh big name comedians were there as well. And and so what they did is they picked uh three of us to do stand-up comedy for four minutes, and then they would pick a winner. And so submitted, get this guy, submitted a CD that I burned myself.

SPEAKER_02

So oh my god, the days of burning CDs.

SPEAKER_06

I know, right? And so I burned a uh CD, I sent it in, I got picked, and and so I got to um to go. I you know it's funny, I I was just thinking about this the other day, actually, is so I've worked with these other two people a lot, right? And you only have four minutes, and when we get there, I realize you win a trip to Mexico. I mean, they're giving away a trip to Mexico. Oh, I see. And and so I was like, oh man. So I I think I'm third. And uh this other guy, Steve, is second. And Steve has this joke about um his wife having an affair with the UPS man. And I asked him, I said, Steve, do you mind if I tag your joke? Uh tagging your joke means I would reference his joke in my act. I wanted to ask his permission. If it was just a normal show, I would never ask, I would just do it. But it was a contest, and I didn't feel if I didn't, I felt I had to ask him. Um, because I knew that if it worked, um, that was game, it would be lights out. I would win right there, right that second. And so he says, Yeah, sure, no problem. So I get out there right after he does his set, and my opening line, which out of context won't be that's hilarious, but I said, Oh, I've got a great job. I'm Steve's UPS man. Right. And so I mean, the whole place uh goes insane, like insane to the point where the judges stopped the show, and Kathleen Madigan points out like how ballsy it was for me to even try that in such a short of time, and like and just uh applauded me. Now they don't know I've done this 10 other times with Steve, you know what I mean? And so, which is why I asked him because I knew game lights out, and you know, if it worked, it worked, you know. You always run the risk where they don't remember the joke, you know what I mean? But so yeah, so it works. I win, I end up getting a trip to uh Mexican.

SPEAKER_02

And uh did you take Steve with you?

From Comic To Podcaster And Rebrands

SPEAKER_06

No, no, I took my wife. And uh I know he he earned it though. He he should I say it, didn't I? But I'm uh it's turned out it was like uh it's like a spring I'm with my wife, and it was like a spring break. You know, I'm dropped in the middle of like where a spring break place would be, you know what I mean? Like spring breakers would go, you know, senior frogs and this and that, and not the greatest hotel in the world. And uh I remember getting like violently ill. I think I ate some bad seafood or something, and just puking my guts out all day. My wife was so mad because we're like in like uh the sun in like Mexico, and I'm vomiting my guts out. And the only thing I remember from that is you remember the show Heroes? There was a show Heroes, you know, and um in the second season of Heroes, they go back, he goes to Japan, the character goes to Japan. So in America, he's in Japan speaking Japanese, and it's American subtitles. In Mexico, when you're puking your guts out and you're watching a show, he's speaking Japanese, but the subtitles are in Spanish. So I can't even watch TV.

SPEAKER_02

Wow.

SPEAKER_06

So that's all I remember from there. I guess the but the point is I won.

SPEAKER_02

You should have taken Steve.

SPEAKER_06

I should have. He's probably so mad at me to this day. I'd have been mad, I'd be mad at me to this day.

SPEAKER_02

I would too, right? Um oh my god, heroes. I haven't watched that show in forever. I don't think I even finished it actually.

SPEAKER_06

No, the first season was amazing, and then it just got horrible after that.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, because I feel like some shows they ruin it, they ruin it by trying to overextend it, like just end it at some point, like let it live while it's still new. But um, congratulations for for winning that and having uh one hell of a Mexica story. Was that your first thing to Mexico? No, I think I'd been there for like spring break or something one time, but now Jeff, you went from um comedian to podcaster, so I learned that your show was first called Live from Detroit. First of all, are you born and raised from Detroit?

SPEAKER_06

Like that's home, Michigan, but outside of Detroit. So it was actually uh the Jeff Duaskin show. Then it was like live from Detroit, the Jeff DeWoskin Show, and then this is like case studying branding. And then it was uh live from Detroit, uh the Jeff Dawaskin comedy show. The idea was with Live from Detroit was that well, first of all, the Jeff Duaskin show, I think, was too vague. I'm not a big fan of putting your own name in your podcast, even though I did it. Uh I didn't know any better. And I mean, if you're Joe Rogan, it's one thing, right? And you go, oh, the Joe Rogan show. What who's that about? Joe Rogan, right? Oh, yeah, I know that guy, right? The Jeff DeWoskin show, right? So I was live from Detroit, the Jeff DeWoskin show. I was um, I think I was dealing with some sponsor sponsors, wherever I was being hosted at the time, and they had three questions for me. Is this show live? No. Is this show only about Detroit? No. Who the f is Jeff Dewaskin? And like um, and I was like, you know what? I may change the name of my show. I think so. It's I've been doing it for five years, so I think in 2022, I changed it to classic conversations. I sat down, I'm like, well, what's my show really about, right? And it's like, well, you know, I literally wrote down words, you know, like one of those exercises. And it's um the only problem with my show is if you type in classic conversations, every search engine goes, Did you mean classical conversations? No, why would I mean that? That's a whole different word. That's not even the same word. Why would I mean, you know, and and so that's a that's the only problem with that. But um, but classic conversations kind of fit what the show had always been about. And so I dropped all those other things and and just kind of it's less explaining, I think, too, when the show matches what it's actually about versus some kind of weird vanity thing. So but I didn't know any better, so I learned along the way.

SPEAKER_02

And most of us do, like uh, I've rebranded my my my podcast before, like we changed the logo. The logo I have now isn't the logo I started with. And I was not a fan of having my own face on my logo, but then uh the second year after Podfest, I think it was Travis Brown who kind of um went to my my podcast and was like, Paul, I think your logo needs to change. You need to put your face because you have all this energy, and your podcast is about you and having conversations with other people. So you need your energy on the logo there. I it was like, I feel that will attract more people. And it wasn't, it wasn't, it was right, like uh changing the logo brought in a different perspective.

SPEAKER_06

But um I think it works for you. I think it works for you. You're like, you know, anyone meets you, you know, understands the ball of energy that you are, and you know, it's still the name of your show is talking shit with P. And then the image I think makes it better. Like it gives them oh, who are you talking shit with? Oh, this person, even if they didn't know you that logo says, Oh, I want to hang with with this person.

Logos, Names, And Letting Go

SPEAKER_02

Exactly. And and and because my first logo was just like the the lips, um, the watch talking talk she would be coming out, and then a mic. So uh Travis was like, Yeah, this is not giving the energy that you are giving, or your your podcast is giving, so we need to change this. So I remember even ended up sitting down with Adam. Shout out to Adam Shimley. I keep messing up his last name, but uh, because he was always telling people like you shouldn't have your name or your face as your logo. So I went to him and was like, well, Paula, your podcast is not uh a business podcast, right? I'm talking about people who are doing business, like putting your name or your face when it's something for your business. Was like, you, I think that's a good idea. So we went back and forth between me, Adam, uh, Travis, and my illustrator trying to find the right vibe while we were changing the slogan until it came. But also the process of that, what I understood, like, you know, this season is all about change and pivoting and rebranding all that, especially with me and where Tuxhi Whippy is gonna become in the near future, is as I said, for right now, we are putting a big pause on it. And 2026, there won't be Talkshire Whipy for a minute. But um, change is scary, right? Because especially when you you're rebranding, whether it's yourself or your show, your baby, like you are somehow like I was still kind of like that. Was my first logo, right? So I was like, I had some emotions with it, letting it go and bringing new, and then seeing like how will the people take this new change. So with you and your podcast, like changing the names, and um, how did you do were you were you nervous about how people were gonna take it or if you're gonna lose some listeners?

SPEAKER_06

Um I think um if I had listened, I I yeah, don't go, one person.

SPEAKER_02

Um You have fans, okay? You have fans live from Detroit. You got fans.

SPEAKER_06

The show, the show is the same, you know. I mean, and let me be clear. I if something works for you, whoever's listening, do it. Like, I'm not a big fan of microphones in the art, but it works for you, I think, in that picture where you're holding a mic, I think that works. And you know, not you know, I think when some anyway, but like um again, I think everything has to just gel together to what it is, right?

SPEAKER_02

And so, you know, I mean, I didn't want to be a mic but a B as well, just saying.

SPEAKER_06

No, I think we're I think your thing works uh great. I mean, you know, there's so many rules, and like there's you know, I think there's it's good rule of thumbs, and then it depends on what you is, what you what you is, what what your show is, you know. It's like with the name thing, the Jeff Juwaskin show. If I was famous and people actually knew who I was, great, but I'm not famous, you know what I mean? So it's it just it it begs more question than it does explain what's going on. Having my picture didn't do anything in the early ones. I love some of my old logos, by the way. Yeah, I really did.

SPEAKER_02

Um, but I want to see them, I want to see odd logos.

SPEAKER_06

I used to have like seven minutes of stuff that I used to do before the interview, and you know, I cut all that out. I don't do that, it's been over a year or so since I did all that. Um your question was fans. I don't think anyone noticed, you know what I mean? Because it was kind of I I changed the opening, but the opening had the same vibe, you know what I mean? So it was a it went from a guy, a w a man's voice to a woman's voice, and then um, but it was the same kind of vibe, and then it just a different name of the show. And honestly, it was easier. The show became shorter with classic conversations and having to say live from Detroit, the Jeff Duaskin. That's a mouthful. That's a lot. There's a lot to you know. That's try doing like a 30-second commercial where you're saying that your podcast name and like and 30 seconds of it is the name of the podcast. It's like, you know, so it helped on a variety of levels to get it down to just classic conversations.

SPEAKER_02

I love that. I remember like you're so right, there's certain changes that just uh make shit easier. I remember when I started, I used to spend so much time trying to to find the right background uh song, like to go with the the episode, and it would take forever because I had to make sure like the sound is not as higher than hearing, or like the music doesn't get you to sleep. Or like sometimes some music you're listening and you just drift off and you're forgetting that you're listening to a podcast. So it was and then people started writing to me. They're like, this music is distraction. I was like, oh shit, y'all don't want the music. Thank God, do you know how long it takes for me to find these songs and make sure they are right vibe or whatever? So I stopped. I was like, that's one thing I am going to stop if you don't want it. Like, thank you.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, I've I've uh systematically made it much, you know, if I after five years, you know, part of my pod fading or anything like that, but like I, you know, I want to spend less time on it, you know what I mean? So I used to like do these custom commercials, not that I got paid for, I mean, I would make like a commercial based on some meta thing that my that had to do with my interviewee. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02

Like, a talk show with Picomasha?

Streamlining Format And Cutting Filler

SPEAKER_06

Like Yeah, well, I would, you know, it's like I've like I remember like the Jaws 2-1 and they ate at this bar, so I did a fake commercial for the bar. And nobody and I never said what I was doing, I just did it. So I was in my back of my head, I'm like, one day there'll be a criterion version of the Jeff Duaskin uh classic conversations, and they will uncover all these secret things that I do. Like I've only ever had one person say to me, like, you know, you say a different name at the beginning of every episode. I go, I know, I do. You know, like what I mean, maybe other people notice, but only one person's ever said anything to me. You know, like after the the intro, I'll go, all right, Paula, thank you so much for that introduction. Or I'll go, all right, Lisa. You know, it's like it's always a name that has something to do with my guest. It's not my guest name, but something to do with them. And, you know, so you know, when it was a guy voice, it was always, I'd say, All right, Bill, you know, it was a guy, then I'd say, but it was always a different name. And so I was like, yeah, I was like, I still do that, but like, um, but yeah, I got rid of the commercials. I used to have a Twitter thing that we used to do. So I'd do these hashtag games at the end, and or I do social media tips because I was really into that. And I'm just like, uh, get rid of it all, get rid of it all. Took away, took away 45 minutes of prep that I had to do for every show that no one cared about. You know, it's like they're just like, give me, you know, just get to the point. The guest would be like, my interview starts in 702 or whatever. It's like, all right, I get the point. So now the intro is just the intro. And on YouTube, it's just literally the interview, you know. But the audio version has uh uh a different intro and it and uh added obro, but um, and then a break in the middle for commercials to insert, but other than that, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I love that. But does talk she we pee get get a commercial? I want a talk she we pee commercial. I don't care whether you're stuck doing them, whether I've not been a guest on your podcast. I don't care. You're a guest here. Talk to P deserves a commercial from Jeff. That's all I'm saying.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_02

Okay. Now speaking of social media, perfect time to be talking about Stamper Social.

SPEAKER_04

Thank you. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

So for those who don't know, and if you don't know where you're living, because right now you should know, especially if you listen to Doc Show P, you should know what Stamped Social is. I'm just saying, unless you're those people who fast forward through my my my commercial. How dare you? So, Jeff, what is Stamp Edso? And I am curious like the name. How did you come up with the name Stamped Social?

SPEAKER_06

Great questions. Stamped Social is an engagement platform for creators. So let's say you're a creator, say a podcaster. On Instagram, it powers up your Instagram with DM automation. You can turn any post into a giveaway. You can track fan-generated content. It has tools that you can use, AI tools, to engage with your fans when they leave comments, uh, top fan reports. So a lot of cool stuff it does there. Works on Facebook as well with some DM automation there. You can drive people from your podcast uh to your socials. Hey, go uh DM me uh uh whatever, BetterHelp. I always say better help. And like uh uh, you know, and then you don't have to give them URLs.

SPEAKER_01

You need therapy.

Enter Stampede Social: What It Does

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, you don't have to give them URLs or anything. You just then they get a uh trackable link so you know who requested everything, and you can track how many times they clicked on it, or you can do that from the Instagram or yourself, or your Instagram stories, or your Instagram lives, and we're rolling out some YouTube stuff as well, and you can get your post stats from all the different platforms. So it's a real robust way to kind of keep tabs on your socials and automate and drive listens and and get people to really engage with you in uh in a special way. How the name, the name we used we used to have a Twitter thing called hashtag Roundup, and that was uh we had an app and all this kind of stuff, and we would do could you say that again? Sorry. My watch triggered my watch somehow. Uh hashtag Roundup and um on Twitter, and so there was a time from like 2015 to 2020, like we we uh ran Twitter basically. I mean, like any given time, three or four trending topics in the United States were from hashtag Roundup, you know, basically word games. So uh hashtag uh um marriage in four words or whatever it might be, uh rune a song with one word or some some game that you play. And you Jimmy Fallon does them as well, and they and after midnight used to be a big thing that they would do on Comedy Central. So we would do it all day, every day, all these different games, and so we would trend all the time, and then so we started to build this company or the beginnings of it at the same time. So it was originally hashtag Stampede, and so because it was all in the same thing, then we had this rodeo theme, and and then we got away from the hashtag and changed it to um Stampede Social. Yeah, the idea of the visual is that you know, you're what do you do with this onslaught of people coming at you on social and what's the best way to engage them and convert them to a listener or a you know a customer or whatever it might be. So that's the tools that we kind of put in place. So that's sort of the the visual of how we got to the name.

SPEAKER_02

I like that. Interesting. You really were Twitter Twitter. Do you tweet do you still be a I miss when it was called Twitter? I don't like the X. Like Twitter was so much fun. Let's tweet, let's tweak.

SPEAKER_06

I don't, you know, X became a thing where you had to pay for it, and I was like, I was OG verified, like I was legit verified. And so it was like that meant a lot to me to get that. And so when Elon took all that away and you had to pay for it, I was like, well, if anyone can pay for it, yeah, I don't need it, you know. And the whole idea was earning it. And so you know, once you know, and now like if you don't buy it, then you know, your reach is you know in the toilet. So we'd sort of moved away from Twitter and sort of adapted a lot of the technology that we'd built. We had a huge community, really. On Twitter, we had like over 50,000 people, you know, in our community. And so we left that, ended up moving to uh Instagram where I worked at Lil Caesars, uh, was on their digital side, but also on their um customer engagement side and their marketing team. So worked a lot with influencers and worked a lot with creators, so saw and agencies and so saw firsthand like the short the shortcomings of Instagram. And so we kind of built this tool to fill in the the holes and make it easier to not just do something on Instagram, but also manage and measure it as well.

SPEAKER_02

I love that. So as a person who was enjoying using Stampage Social but now can't because of um not wanting to be on Facebook. Will that ever change? Like, are we gonna find a way of where somebody can use it without having to have Facebook? Can that be can that happen?

SPEAKER_06

We're we're working on something where you can do it just with Instagram. That wasn't us, that was Meta. That was you know, Facebook requirements that you tie an Instagram to your Facebook. When Facebook bought Instagram, they kind of mushed all the technologies together uh in a non-pretty way. So it was it's just kind of a limitation on that, you know. Now, if you just turned your Facebook back on, we won't get you'd be all set.

SPEAKER_02

It makes me be petty. Like I saw I was becoming this person I didn't like, and I was starting to look at people sideways because everybody thinks they should put their opinions on social media, and now I'm looking at you like you're so crazy. Why do I even? And and I don't want to not like people who already like, right? Just because of your stupid need of saying whatever the fuck you want to say on social media.

SPEAKER_06

I don't want to not like you just because I now truly understand how you feel about other people and things. I s I snooze 30 a lot. I use uh the snooze 30 is my best friend. I use it all the time. You can snooze someone for 30 days so you don't see them for 30 days. Based on the uh comments and stuff that I get on my post, I think I've been snooze 30 by plenty of people on uh on Facebook.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, so Facebook was just making me become this evil being. I was like, let me get out of here before um I can't. I get it. If I get canceled, because people can cancel me. I don't even like people like that anymore. So y'all can cancel me, I don't give a fuck. But I was just like, let me just get out of here because before they send me to a mental asylum and think like I'm crazy, crazy, but y'all are the ones making me crazy. So it was for my mental health.

SPEAKER_06

That's awesome. I was I'm glad you're I'm doing yeah. How are you doing?

SPEAKER_02

I I am good. Threads is now becoming uh uh another Facebook, so I might have to shut my threads down because now they're pissing me off over there. But otherwise, I'm good. You know, I am processing this this this new life that we are we are living with everyday frames. So, you know, life is life. But um, I am ready to get back to stamping social. Like it was so much fun creating all these words and and having people triggered on their inbox because they say some shit and now they're getting a link.

SPEAKER_06

I hear you. Yeah, no. Um, I'll uh I'll keep you updated. So it's just yeah, it's not there yet, but hopefully soon.

Twitter Roots To Instagram Tools

SPEAKER_02

So hopefully soon. Hopefully soon. Uh I'm a big fan of Stamped Socials. Okay, listen up, y'all. I'm about to give you all a great tip, okay? Y'all know I barely read my DMs and God don't get me started on tracking my links. But now I'm lucky organized. And you wanna know why? You wanna know what the secret is? Stamp it social. So stamp it social, it's like um if Instagram, Linktree, and your favorite social media intern had a baby, but with boundaries and vibes, lots of vibes, you get a full dashboard that tracks what people are actually clicking on. Now, wouldn't you like to know that? Like I do, and I enjoy it. I've been obsessed with it. Like, for once, I know which post major run to my link and which ones have flopped harder than my ex is mixtape. Sorry. Plus, here's a kicker. Get this right, there's a seven-day free trial because we don't do commitments without a test drive, y'all. And if you're feeling spicy, or should I say extra spicy, use code POLA20. Yes, that's P-A-U-L-A 20 for 20% of a plan every month for life. Yes, forever, ever, ever, ever, forever, ever, ever. So if you're a content creator, podcaster, or just tired of shouting into the void, go check out Stamped Social because your content deserves better than linking bio with zero context. Again, that's Paula 20, P A U L A 20. Because I love you, but I love organized chaos even more. Don't say I didn't tell you, don't say I didn't share, don't say I didn't give you the good good. Don't come back to me complaining because it's right there. Go on now. Go get your seven-day free trial. Thank me later. So, um, as we come to an end, right? Uh, this is my number one season 10 question that I ask everybody because you know, I just like people talking amazing things about everybody, she means only people invited to season 10. The only 14 people invited to season 10.

SPEAKER_06

Only season 10.

SPEAKER_02

14 people, only 14 people, you're all lucky bastards.

SPEAKER_05

My face. Oh, hello, darling. How are you?

SPEAKER_02

So uh your first impression of me when you met me versus your impression of me now that you know me.

SPEAKER_06

Oh, that's a good question. I uh I knew of you a long time before I met you, right?

SPEAKER_02

I yeah, we officially officially met in met in Atlanta.

SPEAKER_06

We didn't even meet at Podfest, which is the funniest part of the story. Is uh I'm sure we had met at Podfest. Like I saw you, like we did, yeah. I knew because you were always walking up to someone, you had the crazy, your colorful hair, you know what I mean? Like, and uh just a ball of energy. I think you know, people I don't know if they were always referring to you as the mayor, but like um I got upgraded to the governor this year. The governor. You were yeah, last year I was the mayor.

SPEAKER_02

This year I'm the governor, so let's see what next year I become, you know.

SPEAKER_06

And then and then we met at FinCon in Atlanta. Um, I was like, oh, oh, I finally got to meet uh Paula because no one else is around.

SPEAKER_02

And so we I was like, well, let's get a selfie because now I finally, finally, we we we are all part of Portfest. We are all together at PortFest, but we had to meet at FinCon in Atlanta. Okay.

Platform Frustrations And Mental Health

SPEAKER_06

It was one of those where we recognize each other, but we don't know as many people as you know I mean, so it's like and you always kind of like flock to those people, right? And uh, but yeah, I mean, I think we, you know, I think everyone, you're one of those people, like if I were to go, like, we were best friends right away, like everyone would be like, we were best friends right away. You know what I mean? You're one of those people like you find out, like, oh, everyone feels that way, and um which is a testament to you, it's nice. Um I wish people would feel that way.

SPEAKER_02

I do. You are my best. Listen, not everybody makes me want to go and listen to their podcast. So actually, if I say I'm gonna listen, I'm doing it the next day, like probably it should take a month or two months. Because even though I'm a podcaster, I hate listening to podcasts. And it's also like I'm like all the people I know in the podcasting industry. Like, how many podcasts am I gonna listen to? Like, everybody I know has a funny. But the people we sit down, we were vibing, we talked, and literally the next day when I was coming back on my ride on the train, I was listening to your podcast, which is that's the the biggest, quickest turnaround for me when I tell somebody I'm gonna listen to your podcast.

SPEAKER_06

So, everyone who um who has a podcast, tell me if this is your pet peeve. Uh, when someone goes, Oh my god, I've listened to your podcast. And then that's the end of the sentence, right? It's like, and you know, it's like did you like it?

SPEAKER_02

Oh yeah, I listened.

SPEAKER_06

I checked out your podcast. Isn't that the worst thing or something? Like, oh, Jeff to watch, oh yes, I checked out your podcast.

SPEAKER_02

I hate it when people tell me they checked out my podcast because I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_06

It's like if then they don't say anything. It's like, all right, I assume you liked it, otherwise, why would you bring it up? You would have just if you hated it, I guess you would have just not said anything. You didn't need the second half. As creators, you need you need that second half. You need I listened to your podcast, it changed my life. It was mind-blowingly amazing. You know, something. You need something, right? Everyone feels that way. It's not just me, right?

SPEAKER_02

I believe I gave you notes because I didn't get to see you because you were leaving, but I think I texted you about the episode when I was listening to it.

SPEAKER_06

You did. You said it was one of the most groundbreaking podcasts you'd ever heard, and that it was better than you listed off people. You listen, you're like, this is better than everyone else's podcast podcast. I remember I have it in writing, so I'll find it. It's like you listed names, you name names, and so I uh I'll uh No get me in trouble now.

SPEAKER_02

Well, it's funny you said how um uh you you would assume that everybody says like uh like a best friend, but um James, who I who I hanged out with yesterday and I'll be seeing tomorrow. When we first met, he wanted to strangle me. And now we there was not like I I had a best friend experience. No, he wanted to strangle me, and then later we we had a beer, and then we just became okay. Since we're not gonna strangle each other, we might as well enjoy beers together.

SPEAKER_06

I think people have to, I think, be ready to bring you in. Like I could see, like if I was like really tired at the end of the day, and I just met you and I got that Russia Paula energy, like it might be too much for me to say, no, get off my I think you have to be able to accept it. Once it's accepted once, it's just you know, and you know that's how it is. And that's you know, I can see like maybe a mismatch every now and then, maybe, but not.

Creator Mindset: Ignore Algorithm Rules

SPEAKER_02

It does happen. I think it was last year a podcast movement, and I was trying to win a mic from your bestie Macronic. And uh, so I had to go around and find three people in a specific time to get them to follow my podcast, but I can't tell them why. So Mark was recording following me, and the first person, yeah. The second person, uh yeah, the third person. We literally, even Mark was like, Yo, Paul, I think you pissed off that person. I was like, thank God, I'm tired of every time when people meet me, they're saying, Oh my god, Paul is so fun, Paul is so energetic. Oh my god, I love that now. At least I've pissed somebody off. Yay, me, like good for me. And then later this guy comes and finds me and apologizes, even though I'm the one who was in wrong and I'm the one who pissed him off. So he comes, finds me, and apologize. I'm like, no, no, no, I was invading your space. I'm the one who should be apologizing. He's like, no, I was just in a weird mood, and I wasn't understanding what was going on. I was like, that's fine. Then he invites me, he gives me an invitation. Their company was throwing this big dinner, which people had to RSVP a month ago, and I was like, bring your friends. And it was like at uh for the the child, the meet, and the meetup was called meetup, like the meat, like let's go eat meat at Father the Child. So I get I get Joe, uh, his friend, and Amanda. We go, I'm like, I hope this shit is free because Father the Child ain't cheap, and I'm bringing all your, I'm not paying for your miners, okay? So we go and we find all the big people there, like Gordon was there, Elsie from Lipson was there, like all these people seated down in this room and he sees me. He's like, I'm so happy to see me. I'm like, I should piss people off more often. Like, is this how you get celebrated when you piss people off? Then we sit down, and I sit down next to that that founder of that company. He was like, We're so happy this shit is over. It took us forever to organize this. So when the waiter comes, I first asked him, I'm like, This shit is already paid for, right? Just making sure because I don't know how to get a bill. He's like, No, no, no, you're good. Yo, we ate so good. When Joe found out about the story, I was like, I'm gonna need you to piss more people off. You got me tonight, like so. You know, we sometimes piss people off, and I like it. I get excited because people are so used to my bubbly happy whatever. So give me something different, you know.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, no, it's all right. Hey, you you're allowed, you know, you don't have to every now and then.

SPEAKER_02

Every now and then. Uh rap shit with P is more than just a name, it's what we do. We make visions come alive from branding and match to curated gifting and virtual assistant services. We help creatives, entrepreneurs, and businesses show up bigger, bolder, and better. So if you're ready to level up your vision, connect with us on IG at rapsheet with p or uh rapshitwithp at gmail.com and that's w r a p s I T W I T H P Rapshitwith P at Gmail.com or Rap She With P on Instagram. Rap Sheetwith P where access meets energy, where passion meets execution, and where every detail gets wrapped with love and excitement. So here's to season 10, the final season of talk showp as we're coming to an end, right? What is one tool habit or mindset from running Stampett Social that you think every creator should steal today?

SPEAKER_06

What mindset? Um, I think kind of ignore some of the the noise. Like our job as creators is to create, and so create. Like, I'm not a big fan of Instagram every five minutes saying, uh no, you gotta do stories, but not too many stories, but now you can do more stories, and uh your reels are good, but they gotta hit save, and they got there's like and this is great for like who are you talking to to make that says this is all great? I mean, you're like putting so much of that pressure, the things that drove you away from Facebook, you know, on these creators that just let people create and make good stuff. Stop with all the algorithmic rules. I won't say rules because they're algorithmic rules where you're trying to get people to do certain things for your algorithm because you want to make more money platform, and taking away what is the most important thing about the people that are on the platform, their creative nature. Stop trying to make us all the same, you know what I mean? It's like everything's everyone's unique, just let them be creative, and how about you just let people see their stuff?

Pivots, Regrets, And Lessons

SPEAKER_02

I love that. I I truly do, and that's why like my Instagram is so messy and shit, and I like it that way because I post when I want what I want to post when I want to post. And that's why then these these commanding video creators who constantly hit you up telling you I can make you go viral, I can create a video for you. When they sh when they attach their sample of work, I look at it, I'm like, why would I want to be the same? Like, I feel like everybody now, their videos almost look the same. I'm like, it's okay to to be different, to go with your vibe, to like don't be like anybody, just like how these cut-unquote uh professional podcasters with their opinions on oh, you should do video. No, you shouldn't. If you don't want to do video, don't do video. Oh, you should have this, no, you don't. What works for you and your podcast might necessarily not work for me and my podcast. Uh, it is fucking okay. Do whatever the fuck you want.

SPEAKER_06

I agree. Here, let's uh let's we're we're gonna record this right now, and then you can put this at the beginning of the podcast. You can go on. Welcome to the podcast. You're not gonna believe the five tips I have for you because number five is gonna blow you away. Don't miss number five, which is last. It's last, get it? So that means you have to wait.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, for only nine ninety-nine you can get more hooks like this.

SPEAKER_06

Let's do a different angle.

SPEAKER_04

All right. Good. Good topic.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, I can't take you serious.

SPEAKER_06

I wasn't meant to be serious. That's what everything is these days. It's like if I wait if I watch one more TikTok video where I'm waiting to the thing and then it ends before they actually tell you the thing, and like I'm supposed to find another video, it's like go to hell. Tick bait. It's more like live. It's like, what the hell?

SPEAKER_02

Like, I want you to come into my profile and search more shit.

SPEAKER_06

Like, don't screw over your the people that are putting time into your creative, you know what I mean? It's like if you're net if your post is good enough, I'll watch another one. It's like all these people that say, follow me before earn the follow. It's nothing worse than someone following you because they're just gonna unfollow you.

SPEAKER_02

Or even people who beg to follow back or whatever, like you followed me for a reason, right? Let me follow you for a reason if I find that reason. Like, yeah, and that's why these days, like, I don't follow back just because somebody follows me. Like, I'll go to your profile, like, what are you about? Otherwise, I'm not following you. Maybe if you send me a message and you start having a conversation, and the conversation maybe something, then I'll follow you. But what's the point?

SPEAKER_06

Like, this day there's only three reasons, Paula, that you should follow someone, and the third one's gonna blow you away.

SPEAKER_02

Wait for it.

SPEAKER_06

Wait for it, wait for it.

SPEAKER_02

Oh my god. So um, Jeff, looking back, right? Is there anything you'd have done different with your as a person who has rebranded often and uh you know owning a company or building stuff, apps, whatever you constantly have to pivot and change direction and anything. Um so is there anything you'd have done differently with all these pivotings or rebrandings that you've done?

SPEAKER_06

Paula, I wouldn't have changed a thing because every one of those things led to me where I am.

SPEAKER_02

No, it's gonna I don't like here talking shit with P on talk shit with P.

Classic Conversations: Volume And Vision

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, there's a million things I wish I had done differently. Like probably everything. I was, you know. I uh but uh but you know, you can't change it. But yeah, I would have tried to get it out there more. Maybe I would have, you know, talked to more people, maybe I would have you know I mean I you know it's there's a bunch of different things that you second guess yourself all the time, but those are the kind of things that'll drive you crazy as well. So you can only just try to do the best you can every time you do it.

SPEAKER_02

So true. So what's next for classic conversations? How many episodes do you have? Because for a person who started in 2020, you have a lot of episodes.

SPEAKER_06

I have 392 episodes. Uh I have more than the Five Years Wood weekly show because there was a period of time, I think 70 weeks, that I did a second show. I had a live show that I was doing. I haven't done it in quite a while, but was it live? It was that was live. That was actually live. We did it live every Wednesday and called Crossing the Stream, so stuff you should binge. So I mean I got like 400 hours of this stuff on my YouTube channel. It's good stuff, but I would take like uh segments from different shows and do like a 20-minute episode on Thursdays, and I did that about 70 times, I think. And so that's why I have uh more episodes than the week, uh weekly times five years would give you. So well, I guess more than five years now. May was five years, but yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, because I started in April and I have again, I I'm not as committed with the work I think as you have in this because I think uh uh I'm on 200 episodes.

SPEAKER_06

Oh, that's amazing. I think more than seven is great. Uh yeah, once you once you hit it, it's like um, yeah, no, that's a lot to be proud of. You know, it's everyone's you know, some people do daily shows, you know. I mean, so it's like, you know, the number is not always matched uh thing, but I generally it's a weekly show and it's been weekly now for quite a while again, but there was a period where um I I did uh I I aired stuff on Thursdays, but when I stopped that show, there was I didn't have the content and I wasn't gonna put out two interviews a week. That was just way too much work, and so yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, mine was Disney, so I took like two months break every year, and then I one time did start shit happens, which was a live thing, and I got so comfortable because I enjoy live, right? I don't have to worry about editing, whatever, it's already out there. God knew with it what you would do. And then I was like, okay, I guess we gotta end talk shit with people properly. So I get ideas, I do them, then I get bored, and I'm like, fuck it, we're done. But the live one, because I didn't have a specific, like I feel like I should have done like a specific day and time, but it was random. So some days I was live like three, four times, depending on how people scheduled. So like in a month I would have like almost 50 episodes because some days were like four, five, like on, and almost every day was just like I I was like, this is crazy because I was getting tired. Like, as much as being live and talking is fun, but when you have to do it like four times in a day, you're like, okay, uh, there must be something else in life than being on here 24-7 every fucking day. No, I can't, so yeah.

SPEAKER_06

But um, but if it wasn't live, then you then you could have spaced those out.

SPEAKER_02

So, yeah, but um that that's what happened was uh one of the seasons because I really didn't want to kind of bring Talkshire with P back, but I kind of wanted to to like give it like a proper momentum. And for the people normally, like, yes, I take two months off, but they're like, Okay, so when's the show coming back? I was like, Okay, fuck it. But I didn't want to interview people. So from the live ones that I did, the conversations that I really liked, though I figured they could work with the theme of talk show pee. I ended up dumping in there. So I had a whole season of branding and everything. So everybody in those lives we did, which we talked about branding and stuff, I dumped them in there, like I took the audience. So that was kind of the hopeful part. Like there are two seasons which I didn't interview because I was like, I already have the content because people are only finding it on Instagram or YouTube. So let me just dump that into the RSS field, the audience. So it worked out well for that time.

SPEAKER_05

There you go.

SPEAKER_02

So this is the the it question. If you could title, you know, either a podcast title, a song, whatever, our relationship, what would the title be?

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I don't know.

SPEAKER_02

You're a creator, like right now. If you're writing uh a podcast title, right? You you create podcast titles every day for your show.

Friendship, Energy, And Community

SPEAKER_06

So create one on our I think I think our our podcast would be called uh more pea. And then people would be like, Oh, what do you like? I I need more pea. And it was like, oh, did you uh what do you think? I think, well, there was a lot of pea in it, but it could have used more pee.

SPEAKER_02

And we're moving from shit to pea. I get it, I get it, I get it. Enough of the shit, bring the pee on. Well, Jeff, if I had fun hanging out with you, what can people expect from classic conversation moving forward? Like what's what what what what's coming for classic conversations? Uh more classic conversations?

SPEAKER_06

Just more classic conversations, yeah. I uh yeah, I yeah, I'm fortunate. You know, it's like I always I feel fortunate, you know, being an independent podcaster. I don't have a publicist or anything like that. You know, so I've done over 300 interviews, and I've gotten them all myself, and I still have some books, and you know, it's just it's funny because like the more I do, the eas not always easier, but sometimes it's easier to get to get people, you know, because now they'll be like, oh, I knew like 15 people who've been on your podcast. Yeah, I'll be on your podcast, you know. I mean, and so that's nice. But yeah, I mean it's you know it's the way I look at it is it's people that I grew up watching on TV. I've always been fascinated with that kind of thing. And when people listen to my podcast, what I hope is that I'm a surrogate for them being able to themselves talk to this person. Because I call it classic conversations because it's a conversation. Like I don't really write down questions, and you know, so it's like I I mean I do a lot of research, and but so you can have that conversation because I kind of approach it the same way I talked about comedy earlier, which is I need to know enough so that when I'm talking with this person, they feel like I know them on some level, even though we've never met. And so that's how I kind of approach it. That's kind of how I approach it. And um, you see how I self-edited there, you made a noise, so I repeated what I said, knowing that you could then take that out, you know. So anyway, uh I don't know all podcasters do that, right? Like if something makes a noise, you just repeat because you know you can just edit it later.

SPEAKER_02

Anyway, so talk shit with P right now, gone.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, so anyway, uh yeah, I mean, so that's it. So it's more conversations, more, you know, everything, you know. So if you know a famous person, uh I I'm always up for an introduction, but uh yeah. So I get a lot of uh emails. I was like, I know I watched TV one time, I'd be perfect for your show.

SPEAKER_02

No, no, uh clearly we're not as famous for him, but yes, I love that. Um so let the people know where they can find you, where they can find classic uh conversations, how they can get to try Stampede Social and all the good stuff.

SPEAKER_06

Uh Stampede.social, you can check it all out there. Um, you if you want to try it out. Um what you have a code. Didn't I give you a code once? Uh 20% off. Probably Paula 20, I'm guessing. Yeah, there you go. Um, you can sign up with that and get a discount. Um and then that's stampede.social. Jeff is funny.com is classic conversations. That's the easiest uh URL for that. Uh or you can just search classic conversations and if classical conversation comes up, just type in my name too with it. Um, check it out. I'm uh I'm obviously everywhere. That was uh that was the one thing I was I'm on all the podcast things. I always tell people it's like if I'm on a podcast show and they go, What's your advice? My advice is be on all the platforms. Oh, get off the stage right now. You don't deserve to be on the stage. If everyone doesn't know, be everywhere, stop it. This is why it drives me crazy. This this is why I haven't been asked to be and speak five times in a row.

SPEAKER_05

Uh, just so you could tell people to also to be on Apple and Spotify.

SPEAKER_04

Get out of here.

SPEAKER_06

Sorry. Um, anyway, uh it's been an honor to be on season 10 of Talking Shit with P. I'm Jeff Jawaskin. And uh, if you're gonna talk shit, you might as well talk shit with P.

Where To Find Jeff And Stampede

SPEAKER_02

Woo! So um, Jeff, I have barely seen you this year. Do I get to see you next year?

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, yeah, probably a lot. Yeah, sure. I'll I'll I'll be somewhere, I'm sure.

SPEAKER_02

I'll be somewhere, I'm sure. That was so okay, Jeff. Uh well then, uh I had so much fun hanging out with you. Thank you for making time for me. I try to make sure you don't suffer for the 17 hours, you know. But um you're awesome.

SPEAKER_04

Thank you.

SPEAKER_02

Thank you, thank you. Leave me, not the people because fuck the people, but leave me an advice for a person who's pivoting and um starting her business and trying to focus on that. What advice would you give me?

SPEAKER_06

Uh, there's a quote that I think is a great quote. And I I'm not saying he said it originally, but I heard him say it, and that's how I know it exists. Uh Rob Lowe. He was talking about um hit I think he was coming out of uh AA or something like that. And this quote he gave, which I found very inspirational, and I I think about it all the time, is don't don't judge your insides by other people's outsides. And and so I think if you kind of look at things, that's a a good way to handle social media. Uh, it's a good way just to handle people in general. What people project is not necessarily reality, so don't don't let that impact your insides.

SPEAKER_02

So I love that. Thank you so much. And we shall be waiting for Jeff's talk show with P Comasha. All right.

SPEAKER_06

All right, thank you so much. You're the best.

Parting Advice And Closing CTA

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